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  1. Jen
    February 9, 2018 @ 11:22 pm

    Hi guys, you've helped me with all my other issues here's one I just cant figure out. Since upgrading to win 10 pro my numloc is an issue. I can get the numloc on at sign in for pin, once in the desktop it will not work. In fact no combo of keys will turn it on. it remains arrows. In 8.1 i had adjusted all the keyboard indicators and worked fine. At this point i can only use num keypad for arrows only except at the login screen where win asks for pin. Here's my original post to microsoft and tenforums. Ive tried the smart suggestions and yes even the dumb ones (ie turn off fast start) etc. Read below see if anything strikes out at you please. Donations on the way as we speak! Jen

    My ROG G751 defaults with the numloc OFF. I prefer to have the default ON. I have learned through having to redo it a bazillion times (updating and upgrading) now exactly what to change for it to work and believe me it took quite some time to even arrive at this solution as there are a ton of "working solutions" for this small change but this is the only the way that worked for this laptop. It worked in 8.1 but I have not been able to modify it and make it work since Win 10 Home or Pro.

    In regedit I modify HKEY_CURRENT_USER under Control Panel, Keyboard, InitialKeyboardIndicators from it's current value of 2147483648 to a 2. I make this same change in HKEY__USERS, DEFAULT also under Control Panel, Keyboard, InitialKeyboardIndicators . I then change the next 4 under DEFAULT ( S-1-*) in the same manner. Reboot, come back it worked for my PIN but once at the desktop the numloc was no longer the default. So I went back into regedit and noticed that the change I had made didn't save in HKEY_CURRENT_USER but had saved in the others. So I made the modifications again. Reboot and same thing, it had saved all but the first one in HKEY_CURRENT_USER.
    So, I went back into regedit and instead of modifying the number string with a 2, I changed the last 2 numbers of the string (2147483648) to 50. I know it shouldn't matter but thought I'd try. Reboot and the same. Had saved all but the 1st one under HKEY_CURRENT_USER.

    I checked the permissions and they looked right I'm pretty sure.

    Any thoughts?


    • lakonst
      February 10, 2018 @ 2:34 pm

      @Jen: I just realized that if the NumLock is ON when you shutdown (or restart) Windows 10, the NulLock stays to ON after restart.


      • Jen
        February 10, 2018 @ 5:47 pm

        Sorry for double message but first reply went to wrong spot. Here's the msg:

        ps…. I noticed there are 2 spots where shows InitialKeyboardIndicators say #USR:ControlPanel\Keyboard those I did not touch.



        • lakonst
          February 12, 2018 @ 11:04 am

          @Jen: Please try the following:
          A. Modify the 'InitialKeyboardIndicators' value to 2147483650 at the following registry locations:
          1. Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Keyboard
          2. HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Keyboard
          3. HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\Keyboard
          4. HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\Keyboard
          5. HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel\Keyboard
          6. HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1696970209-205827333-800872429-1007\Control Panel\Keyboard

          B. Restart your computer.
          C. After Restart check the numeric keys (using notepad). If they doesn't work then press the Fn + Home keys and then try the numeric pad again.
          p.s. Windows can only remember the state of NumLock key as it was, when shutdown or log off.


          • Jen
            February 12, 2018 @ 6:46 pm

            OK I've done a few things. I changed all the values to 2. Hit fn and home, login and just arrows. I hit fn home and relog and still arrows. Then I changed all values to 2147483650 and did the same. I hear the beep pushing the keys and trying each way and reboot. But regardless of whether the values are 2 or 2147483650 the pin at login is always a number pad and signs me in. Jen

          • lakonst
            February 12, 2018 @ 8:12 pm

            @Jen: The Fn key is working for the other functions?

          • Jen
            February 12, 2018 @ 10:37 pm

            I – I fixed it. During all my reconfigurings the Ease of Access mouse button had reset to use as arrow keys. I believe this will solve the problem since I can now get a number to show. I'm relogging and checking but I'm sure that's it.


          • Jen
            February 12, 2018 @ 10:50 pm

            And yes, I feel like an idiot lol


            ps what will i work on now!

  2. DJ
    May 31, 2016 @ 6:41 pm

    Num lock on


  3. Stefan
    May 12, 2016 @ 1:30 pm

    I used the HP solution on my Dell and it worked for me. The initial value was 2147483648, changed it to 2147483650



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